Behe stuff from Jones' Opinion

Some gems from Judge Jones' opinon on the case:

[Behe's] testimony at trial indicated that ID is only a scientific,
as opposed to a religious, project for him; however, considerable evidence was introduced to refute this claim. Consider, to illustrate, that Professor Behe remarkably and unmistakably claims that the plausibility of the argument for ID depends upon the extent to which one believes in the existence of God. (P-718 at 705). As no evidence in the record indicates that any other scientific proposition’s validity rests on belief in God, nor is the Court aware of any such scientific propositions, Professor Behe’s assertion constitutes substantial evidence that in his view, as is commensurate with other prominent ID leaders, ID is a religious and not a scientific proposition.

In other words, Behe lied when he said ID is scientific and not religious.

Professor Behe admitted that his broadened definition of science, which encompasses ID, would also embrace astrology.

IOW, when Behe says ID is "science" he's not using the same definition as the rest of us.

By defining irreducible complexity in the way that he has,
Professor Behe attempts to exclude the phenomenon of exaptation by definitional fiat, ignoring as he does so abundant evidence which refutes his argument.

IOW, when Behe says irreducible complexity shows that evolution can't happen, he's talking out his arse.

scientists in peer-reviewed publications have
refuted Professor Behe’s predication about the alleged irreducible complexity of the blood-clotting cascade. Moreover, cross-examination revealed that Professor Behe’s redefinition of the blood-clotting system was likely designed to avoid peer-reviewed scientific evidence that falsifies his argument, as it was not a scientifically warranted redefinition.

IOW, when Behe was shown to be wrong, he purposely changed his definition to avoid such an inconvenience.

Professor Behe was questioned concerning his 1996 claim that science would never find an evolutionary explanation for the immune system. He was presented with fifty-eight peer-reviewed publications, nine books, and several immunology textbook chapters about the evolution of the immune system; however, he simply insisted that this was still not sufficient evidence of evolution, and that it was not “good enough.” (23:19 (Behe)). We find that such evidence demonstrates that the ID argument is dependent upon setting a scientifically unreasonable burden of proof for the theory of evolution.

IOW, Behe has closed his mind to the possibility of evolution.

Professor Behe agreed that for the design of human artifacts, we know the designer and its attributes and we have a baseline for human design that does not exist for design of biological systems. (23:61-73 (Behe)). Professor Behe’s only response to these seemingly insurmountable points of disanalogy was that the inference still works in science fiction movies. (23:73 (Behe)).

IOW, well, um... WTF?

This inference to design based upon the appearance of a “purposeful arrangement of parts” is a completely subjective proposition, determined in the eye of each beholder and his/her viewpoint concerning the complexity of a system. Although both Professors Behe and Minnich assert that there is a quantitative aspect to the inference, on cross-examination they admitted that there is no quantitative criteria for determining the degree of complexity or number of parts that bespeak design, rather than a natural process.

IOW, Behe lied, or else his definition of "quantitative aspect" is similar to "science".

The one article referenced by both Professors Behe and Minnich as supporting ID is an article written by Behe and Snoke entitled “Simulating evolution by gene duplication of protein features that require multiple amino acid residues.” (P-721).
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Professor Behe admitted that the study which forms the basis for the article did not rule out many known evolutionary mechanisms and that the research actually might support evolutionary pathways if a biologically realistic population size were used.

IOW, Behe lied when he said this peer-reviewed article supports ID.

None of the above rises to the level of perjury, because Behe could easily just claim stupidity. However, we know the man's not really that stupid, so I think "intellectual dishonesty" is more appropriate.

e-dogg (not verified) – Sat, 02/16/2008 – 22:30

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